“Showing up in Technicolor, be seen, see others.” Yours truly joins the legendary Deb Knupp on The HX Collective Podcast

I joined Deb Knupp on the HX Collective podcast, and my episode is now live. If you’re thinking about what it means to lead, live and show up more fully – this one’s for you. Thank you, Deb, for the opportunity to tell my story and, Jennifer Tompkins, for your glorious production support. 

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In this episode, Deb Knupp sits down with Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer Vedder and one of legal marketing’s most visible advocates for showing up authentically, for a conversation that, as Deb puts it, feels like it started before they even hit record.

“Tell people what they will mean to you in the moment it will mean something to them.”

Roy has spent more than 25 years in marketing leadership, including nearly 15 years in legal marketing at some of the industry’s most prominent firms, and served as International President of the Legal Marketing Association. But this conversation isn’t really about marketing. It’s about the strategy, and the sincerity, behind telling people what they mean to you, and why Roy has built a career, a community, and a life around doing exactly that, out loud, in Technicolor, often in a Sesame Street shirt. The throughline is a piece of advice from Roy’s late mother: tell people what they will mean to you in the moment it will mean something to them, not at the funeral, not at the retirement party, and not with a Bundt cake that shows up right when everyone else’s does. Roy traces that instinct through a childhood spent making bullies laugh so they wouldn’t hurt him, a defining moment on stage at a Legal Marketing Association conference where he sang alongside a drag performer to make space for people who needed it, and a hard-won distinction between being nice and being kind. What emerges is a case for treating small, unscheduled moments, a comment on LinkedIn, a walk to someone’s desk, a text after a hard week, as the real work of building trust, long before anyone needs to cash it in.

Highlights:

The Bundt cake rule Roy learned from his mother: show up with support a month later, when people are alone with their feelings, not just in the first flood of casseroles.

Legal Marketing Association keynote where Roy sang “Born This Way” alongside drag performer Athena Dion, and what it told a room full of allies, and skeptics, about who the conference was really for.

The difference between nice and kind, and why the kindest thing is sometimes the direct thing, delivered with care.

Why business development can happen in the coffee line: Roy’s case for quick, genuine touchpoints, a comment, a reshare, a “saw your kid’s off to college,” over five-hour golf outings.

About Our Guest:

Roy Sexton is Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder, where he leads the firm’s marketing strategy, business development, and brand positioning. He brings more than 25 years of marketing leadership to the role, with nearly 15 of those years focused specifically on legal marketing at some of the country’s most prominent firms. A longtime volunteer leader in the field, Roy served on the international board of the Legal Marketing Association beginning in 2020 and was elected its International President for 2023 to 2024. His advocacy work extends well beyond the office: Roy has been recognized by Crain’s, INvolve, and Corp! Magazine for his leadership within the LGBTQ+ community, and he serves on the boards of Mosaic Youth Theatre of Detroit and the Ronald McDonald House Charities of Michigan. He is also, unmistakably, one of the most enthusiastic and generous connectors in legal marketing, a trait he traces straight back to his mother and grandfather.

About the HX Collective:

The HX Collective explores the human experience through three lenses: work, relationships, and self, through raw, authentic conversations rooted in human-centered design. Each episode offers gripping stories, thought-provoking discussion, and concrete tools that help you rethink your relationship with distress and strengthen your whole human experience.

 

Educated Spaghetti: Marketing Ideas That Stick, hosted by Right Hat’s Lise Anne Schwartz, with yours truly as her inaugural guest … “Episode 1: How to Build Consensus”

Ever wonder why some marketers thrive in law firms while others crash and burn?

In this episode of Educated Spaghetti: Marketing Ideas That Stick, Lise Anne Schwartz and Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder Price, dish up ideas on building consensus for professional services marketing projects. They discuss the biggest mistakes of would-be consensus leaders, why Roy loves the word “pilot,” and his surprising take on creating lasting agreement. Plus, Roy shares his favorite resource and secret sauce for getting people to support a new project.

In this episode:

(00:00) The number one thing holding companies back

(05:05) Childhood experiences that shaped a consensus builder

(10:26) Pilot strategy that turns law firm skeptics into advocates

(17:41) When to proceed without consensus (and how to do it safely)

(23:54) Why trying to leave a legacy guarantees you won’t

(32:06) Roy’s secret sauce: listen more than you talk

About the Host

Lise Anne Schwartz is an experienced brand strategist and writer known for creating authentic, original work that audiences remember. With 20 years in professional services marketing, she brings a unique blend of perspectives as a former lawyer, journalist, copywriter, and pastry chef. Her strong focus on storytelling and user-driven communications, combined with skills in surfacing key insights from stakeholder and audience interviews, makes her exceptional at bringing complex ideas to life. Having conducted over 100 buyer interviews and earned degrees from Northwestern University and Columbia Law School, Lise Anne regularly writes on professional marketing topics.

About Right Hat

Right Hat is a marketing and design partner driven by curiosity, courage, and optimism to help clients take their communications to new heights. Specializing in communicating the value of complex, intangible offerings like professional services, education, and tech solutions, they serve as brand strategists, website designers, creators of sales tools, and extensions of in-house teams. Through deep industry knowledge and determination to push past the ordinary, Right Hat combines design, content, and digital strategies to bring powerful brands to life with fresh ideas that help clients stand out in crowded markets.

Educated Spaghetti w/ yours truly as their inaugural guest … Episode 1: How to Build Consensus: https://youtu.be/YCuS5LmS8YA?si=aKWCorURTVmd0f74

Why storytelling and narrative memory are the secret weapons of effective legal marketing … yours truly guests on Ikaun’s “The Pursuit Desk” podcast #lma25

Thank you, Ikaun! 🎙️ New Episode Alert: LIVE at LMA 2025 with Roy Sexton, CMO of Vedder Price

What happens when you combine storytelling, vulnerability, and a little bit of Roy Sexton magic?

In our latest episode of The Pursuit Desk, Jason Noble sits down with one of the most recognizable voices in legal marketing to talk about:

  • Why narrative memory is your most powerful marketing tool
  • How to build real attorney engagement (hint: it’s a ground game)
  • What Roy’s focusing on as he steps into his new role at Vedder Price
  • And why vulnerability isn’t a weakness—it’s a leadership superpower

Whether you’re building brands, leading teams, or just trying to keep up with tech and transformation, you’ll want to give this one a listen.

🎧 Tune in here: https://hubs.ly/Q03mXw6Q0

LIVE at LMA 2025 with Roy Sexton, CMO of Vedder Price

Recorded live at the 2025 LMA Annual Conference, this episode features Jason Noble in conversation with Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer of Vedder Price. Known for his charisma and candor, Roy shares why storytelling and narrative memory are the secret weapons of effective legal marketing. 

He reflects on his first few months at Vedder Price, how he’s building on a strong foundation to drive innovation, and why vulnerability and humor are essential leadership tools. From attorney engagement to brand transformation, Roy’s insights are as thoughtful as they are entertaining. A must-listen for anyone navigating the evolving role of marketing in law firms.