Dylan Conroy hosts yours truly on “The Ad” podcast, discussing the latest trends in legal marketing … and how human beings and storytelling will remain central to that work for the foreseeable future

VIEW INTERVIEW HERE.

Roy Sexton is the Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder, where he leads the firm’s overall marketing strategy, brand positioning, and business development initiatives across the legal sector.

With more than 25 years of experience in marketing and strategic communications—including nearly 15 years focused in legal marketing—Roy has shaped campaigns, digital outreach, and organizational storytelling that support growth and differentiation for global professional services.

He has also served in leadership roles within the Legal Marketing Association – LMA International (LMA), including as International President, and is recognized for his contributions to marketing leadership and inclusive leadership in the industry.

“When you go to a restaurant, you know they can already cook the food … what sets it apart is ambiance.” Rachel Clar, Esq. hosts yours truly for “Coming Out as Yourself in BigLaw: Strategy Over Sanitizing”

Thank you for having me, Rachel Clar, Esq.! I enjoyed that conversation on the power of authenticity very much, and I found the engagement from our wonderful attendees so affirming. Thank you for being you.

Watch the video replay here.

The more you try to fit in, the easier it is to be undervalued.

You sit in silence as he mispronounces your name again, because correcting him feels riskier than letting it slide.

This is the invisible tax so many women in BigLaw still pay.

Not because they lack skill.

Because they were taught to shrink to stay safe.

Rachel coaches BigLaw women across the AmLaw 200.

Roy leads marketing inside a global firm and has lived this firsthand.

On Wednesday, December 10 at 1 pm ET/noon CT, join Rachel Clar, Esq. and Roy Sexton for:

Coming Out as Yourself in BigLaw: Strategy Over Sanitizing

We will unpack how your identity can support your strategy in the rooms that decide your future.

This Live is for attorneys who want to:

→ Speak directly without being labeled difficult
→ Ask for resources in ways that raise your status
→ Decline misaligned work without whispers about your lack of dedication

This session sets the stage for a deeper dive in winter 2026, where you can learn to use your voice in ways that shift outcomes inside your firm.

All registrants get The BigLaw Power Moves Cheat Sheet, which includes ten strategic cues to get yourself heard in high-stakes moments.

P.S. Which moment feels most familiar:
Being talked over.
Being labeled “too direct.”
Being the default note taker.
Being the token woman in the room.
Or saying yes because no feels dangerous?

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P.S. I received this lovely note from an attendee …

I completely loved your and Rachel’s session — and found SO MUCH of it to resonate deeply within me. Here are just a few of the MIC-DROP statements you made that I wrote down! 🎤💥

–the importance of *earning* the right to express more and more of one’s unique authenticity through work quality and reliability

–how you used compassion, humbleness and humor in response to someone butchering your name to convert that challenging moment into a critical bonding/trust moment with him

–don’t look to the company who is paying you to define who you are (boom!!)

–the hidden cost of sanitizing oneself and the profound effects of doing so on mental health, anxiety and overall thriving

–WTF happens in law school such that it spits out people who are in a frantic race to be the first to be second?!? LOL!! #truth

–one can have an abundant mindset in a world/environment of scarcity through authenticity (can I add another BOOM!!??)

–distinguishing between non-negotiables in one’s identity and “gravy” — and how this directly dictates one’s energy and passion

–how you were using your gayness as a lens to signal to everyone else who is feeling othered to be themselves

–the right people will COME TO YOU when you are in your authentic self

🥹🥹🥹

 P.P.S. Rachel’s summary …

You don’t have to be all things to all people.
Because then you’re nothing to no one.

Thank you, Roy Sexton, for sharing so many pearls on yesterday’s Live, 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗢𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝘀 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳 𝗶𝗻 𝗕𝗶𝗴𝗟𝗮𝘄: 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗴𝘆 𝗢𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴.

Here are a few that stayed with me:

1️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗳𝗲𝗲𝗹 𝘄𝗲𝗹𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲
𝘐𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶’𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺’𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵, 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴. 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳𝘴 𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴, 𝘺𝘰𝘶’𝘳𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘸𝘯.

2️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺
𝘋𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯.

3️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗱𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝗻
𝘈 𝘭𝘰𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘭 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘶𝘣𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦-𝘢𝘣𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺’𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵.

4️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘇𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘄𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻
𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘥𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘺. 𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘴.
𝘋𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘴𝘢𝘺, “𝘞𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵.”

5️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂
𝘚𝘶𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨.
𝘞𝘩𝘰 𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶?
𝘞𝘩𝘰 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶?
𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺?

6️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝗿𝘂𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮𝘀 (𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀)
𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢𝘴 𝘮𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦.

7️⃣ 𝗢𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦.
𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 —
𝘰𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘯𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦.

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵-𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲?
Authenticity isn’t a branding exercise.
It’s the foundation of trust — for your clients, your firm, and for yourself.

𝗪𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗲𝘀𝘁?

 

“Act like you belong, then belong.” Chandler Quintin and Video Brothers quiz yours truly on the latest episode of #RockPaperFunnel

Thank you, Chandler Quintin and Video Brothers! This was such an enjoyable conversation, and I’m a BIG believer in having fun while ALSO having substantive discussion (which this was/is). While I didn’t win the contents of the “silver briefcase,” I won a new friend and had a great time along the way!

EPISODE DESCRIPTION: 🪨📄✂️ It’s time to go down the funnel with Roy Sexton, CMO at Vedder Price, in this episode of Video Brothers’ #RockPaperFunnel.

Roy’s proof that “boring” industries are only boring when the people leading them are. He took an English & theatre background, walked into Deloitte “a thousand years ago,” and somehow turned it into a career building brands for some of the sharpest lawyers in the world.

From reimagining three different law firm brands to walking on stage in rainbow sequins with a drag queen at a legal marketing conference, Roy doesn’t just talk about inclusion and humanity in business… he performs it.

And now at Vedder Price, he’s helping attorneys show the world what actually sets them apart: substance, empathy, and real business understanding (not just another “world-class service” tagline).

Stay sharp. Stay weird. And above all… stay memorable.

“Create a footprint for who you are, what you like, and what you enjoy” … yours truly interviewed by Deborah Farone for her upcoming book through Practising Law Institute (PLI) – “Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices,” to be released January 2026

Truly honored to have been interviewed by my dear pal Deborah Farone for her upcoming book through Practising Law Institute (PLI) – Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices, to be released January 2026.

(The quote in the graphic – taken from the book – references my, er, obsession with social media. 😅)

The book can be pre-ordered here with a 20% discount: https://www.pli.edu/catalog/publications/treatise/breaking-ground-how-successful-women-lawyers-build-thriving-practices/440257 … so proud of you, Deb, and thank you for the kindness you always show me and so many others!

About the book: “Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices is based on more than 60 in-depth interviews with leading women rainmaking lawyers, law firm chairs, business development experts, and academics from across the United States, Europe, Africa and Asia. The book explores how women at the top of their profession cultivate client relationships, develop new business, and build sustainable practices—while navigating the particular challenges of the legal world. Through personal stories, candid advice, and actionable strategies, the book offers a roadmap for lawyers at every stage of their careers who want to grow their practices and build trusted relationships with clients.”

Educated Spaghetti: Marketing Ideas That Stick, hosted by Right Hat’s Lise Anne Schwartz, with yours truly as her inaugural guest … “Episode 1: How to Build Consensus”

Ever wonder why some marketers thrive in law firms while others crash and burn?

In this episode of Educated Spaghetti: Marketing Ideas That Stick, Lise Anne Schwartz and Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer at Vedder Price, dish up ideas on building consensus for professional services marketing projects. They discuss the biggest mistakes of would-be consensus leaders, why Roy loves the word “pilot,” and his surprising take on creating lasting agreement. Plus, Roy shares his favorite resource and secret sauce for getting people to support a new project.

In this episode:

(00:00) The number one thing holding companies back

(05:05) Childhood experiences that shaped a consensus builder

(10:26) Pilot strategy that turns law firm skeptics into advocates

(17:41) When to proceed without consensus (and how to do it safely)

(23:54) Why trying to leave a legacy guarantees you won’t

(32:06) Roy’s secret sauce: listen more than you talk

About the Host

Lise Anne Schwartz is an experienced brand strategist and writer known for creating authentic, original work that audiences remember. With 20 years in professional services marketing, she brings a unique blend of perspectives as a former lawyer, journalist, copywriter, and pastry chef. Her strong focus on storytelling and user-driven communications, combined with skills in surfacing key insights from stakeholder and audience interviews, makes her exceptional at bringing complex ideas to life. Having conducted over 100 buyer interviews and earned degrees from Northwestern University and Columbia Law School, Lise Anne regularly writes on professional marketing topics.

About Right Hat

Right Hat is a marketing and design partner driven by curiosity, courage, and optimism to help clients take their communications to new heights. Specializing in communicating the value of complex, intangible offerings like professional services, education, and tech solutions, they serve as brand strategists, website designers, creators of sales tools, and extensions of in-house teams. Through deep industry knowledge and determination to push past the ordinary, Right Hat combines design, content, and digital strategies to bring powerful brands to life with fresh ideas that help clients stand out in crowded markets.

Educated Spaghetti w/ yours truly as their inaugural guest … Episode 1: How to Build Consensus: https://youtu.be/YCuS5LmS8YA?si=aKWCorURTVmd0f74

With an open heart and a healthy sense of humor, serendipity can serve one nicely.

A year ago this week I gave a speech at LMA Southeast Region’s conference. (Yes, I explain the zany suit if you watch.) I’d honestly forgotten about this. Dear friend Nancy Leyes Myrland had a reminder pop up today and sent this video she had captured. I might’ve watched this at the time – but I honestly can’t recall. And I only watched a few minutes of it just now. Like many people, I don’t like the sound of my own voice and I really don’t like watching myself. C’est la vie.

But moreover, I had a lot going on existentially last year. That may be why this was lost to the ether of my addled mind. I do know I wasn’t really happy. (I am now.) I felt a bit lost, misunderstood, possibly angry. I felt I’d done my best to give what I could to this world, but was receiving too many signals that it wasn’t enough, that there should be “less of me out there,” that I had somehow disappointed people I had admired and honored. Like all things, much of that was probably in my own head.

But this speech was born of that moment, in which I did my best to lay bare – with humor and gratitude – how I saw myself and how I believed so fully in the differentiating power of authenticity. (And still do.) Was this my ego showing? Probably. Was it a form of self-indulgent group therapy? Indubitably. Was it an effort to try to help others avoid the pain I was feeling then? That was my prayer.

What a difference twelve months makes. I’ve had a LOT of change this year. I hope I’ve grown. Jury is out on that. But for this moment I feel like the bet I placed on myself – as expressed in this video – was the right one.

I’m so unbelievably grateful for the opportunities that have come my way in this time. The me in this video had no idea a remarkable, transformational, literally life changing offer was just around the corner. This new role and new adventure in a new city with a lovely new team and colleagues have meant the world to me.

The video isn’t the complete speech – some of the intro and conclusion is missing – and, honestly, I like it like that. There are few discrete beginnings and endings in life. With an open heart and a healthy sense of humor, serendipity can serve one nicely.

Thank you again to Nancy for this and for always helping me remember I matter. That we ALL matter. And that our stories make a difference. Also, grateful to Toni Toomer Wells and Matthew Gallagher, co-chairs of last year’s event, for believing in me and giving me the chance to share these thoughts with the universe. I hope they can continue to be helpful to whomever is kind enough to give this a watch.

“The Power of Connection: Turning Relationship Data into Growth Strategy” at LMA Midwest ’25 – October 9-10 in Chicago – with Introhive’s Adam Stewart, Mayer Brown’s Dave Southern, and yours truly

🔗 Want to turn relationship data into strategic growth?

Join us at the 2025 LMA Midwest Regional Conference for “The Power of Connection: Turning Relationship Data into Growth Strategy”—a forward-thinking session moderated by Adam Stewart of Introhive, and panelists Dave Southern of Mayer Brown, and Roy Sexton of Vedder Price. 

You’ll learn how to:

🔍 Use connected data to uncover whitespace and guide priorities

🤝 Strengthen collaboration and client engagement through relationship insights

🧑‍💼Drive smarter, human-centered growth across your firm

Walk away with a roadmap to elevate your data strategy and deliver impact where it matters most.

🔗 Conference details: https://legalmarketing.org/Event-Details/2025-midwest-regional-conference

#MidwestActivate #LMA #LegalMarketingAssociation #LegalMarketing #ClientEngagement #RelationshipData #GrowthStrategy

“Beyond the Billable Hour: Mastering Relationship Development to Build a Thriving Legal Practice” from myLawCLE with Mo Bunnell, Heather Morse, Ryan C. Grelecki, J.D., and yours truly – October 1

Thrilled to be part of this myLawCLE program October 1 with the legendary Mo Bunnell, Heather Morse-Geller, and Ryan Grelecki, J.D. Fun fact: Mo and I grew up, literally one block from each other in a smallish town in Indiana – but we didn’t realize it until working on this project together! And Heather is one of my earliest friends and mentors in this industry, and, per usual, her great instinct to bring us all together prompted this heartwarming discovery.

Register here.

As so many of us in marketing and business development roles frequently tell the attorneys we support, relationships do in fact matter, but it is the time you spend exploring – really talking about life and what matters – that makes those relationships significant and transformational.

Session description“Beyond the Billable Hour: Mastering Relationship Development to Build a Thriving Legal Practice” is a dynamic, virtual training designed to equip legal professionals with actionable strategies to deepen client relationships, create demand, and grow their practices. This program focuses on shifting from transactional interactions to trust-based partnerships, prioritizing key relationships, and implementing a repeatable system for consistent engagement. Through practical tools and self-guided activities, participants will learn how to add value, stay top of mind, and build a thriving legal practice by focusing on what matters most: Relationships.

Key topics to be discussed:

The relationship mindset: How to shift from transactional thinking to trust-based, long-term relationship building

Relationship prioritization: Identifying and focusing on the relationships that matter most to your success

Actionable systems for growth: Implementing consistent, repeatable strategies to stay top of mind and deepen connections

Date / Time: October 1, 2025

1:00 pm – 3:10 pm Eastern
12:00 pm – 2:10 pm Central
11:00 am – 1:10 pm Mountain
10:00 am – 12:10 pm Pacific

Summertime madness … join me for Answering Legal’s “Law Firm Summer Reboot Camp”

I will be appearing for the second year in a row at Answering Legal’s virtual Law Firm Summer Reboot Camp!

Secure your ticket here.

Register for the camp and you’ll gain access to 18 live panel conversations and six live podcast recordings this July and August.

ANSWERING LEGAL PRESENTS: Law Firm Summer Reboot Camp

Come join us at our 3rd annual Law Firm Summer Reboot camp! This year’s camp, which remains completely virtual, is expanding to two weeks. We’ll be hosting panels from July 23rd thru July 26th, then again from August 13th thru August 16th.

By signing up for our camp, attendees will gain access to 18 live panel conversations and six live podcast recordings, in which they’ll receive expert advice on reinventing their practice for the final stretch of 2024 and beyond.

This year’s camp will cover a wide variety of different topics!

July 23rd and August 13th will feature legal tech discussions.

July 24th and August 14th will feature legal marketing discussions.

July 25th and August 15th will feature law office management discussions.

July 26th and August 16th will focus on a variety of different topics, with special guest hosts.

All camp attendees will get to follow our live conversations virtually, and can submit questions for guest panelists via chat. Once registered, you’ll receive email reminders of when camp conversations are set to begin.

As the weather heats up, we’ll be gradually announcing the special guests who will be joining us virtually at summer bootcamp.

While you wait, check out some videos from last summer’s camp.