This Thursday, 10/7 at 3 pm ET, Legal Marketing Association Executive Director Danielle Holland joins yours truly on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk … PLUS Detroit Legal News coverage of the State Bar of Michigan’s upcoming “The Business of the Law Firm” symposium (whew!)

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Tune in Thursday, October 7th at 3:00 PM ET!

Roy Sexton’s guest for this week’s LMCT is Danielle Holland, Executive Director of the Legal Marketing Association. Join us for a fun and enlightening hour to hear Danielle’s thoughts on the future of the Association, current priorities, the challenges of pandemic leadership, and how she’s embraced our legal marketing family. Roy and Danielle have that “only child” thing in common, too – so this should be lively!

Danielle’s early career was in various strategic communications roles in Washington, D.C., including press secretary for several U.S. Congresspersons, and also communications director for U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski. She later moved into leadership positions at such associations as AARP and the Insured Retirement Institute, and most recently as president and CEO of the Financial Managers Society.

In an interview with Attorney at Law, Danielle observed, “One of the primary benefits of becoming actively involved in the Association are the opportunities to network and learn from other experienced members who have diverse backgrounds and skill sets. The connectivity naturally leads to greater professional development, exposure to new ideas and ways of working, and more success on the job.”

Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is brought to you by: By Aries and Kates Media.

Thank you, Mark Rossman and State Bar of Michigan for the opportunity to present at their January “The Business of the Law Firm” symposium! Thanks also to Tom Kirvan and Detroit Legal News for this wonderful coverage: http://legalnews.com/detroit/1503983/.

Proud to be joining Clark Hill colleagues Linda Watson and Jonathan Martone as presenters.

EXCERPT from article: “In addition, [Max] Goss will be moderating a roundtable ‘with some great minds on branding and marketing law firms,’ Rossman noted. The panel will include such marketing strategists as Roy Sexton of Clark Hill; Jasmine D. Rippy, Esq. and Ameena R. Sheikh, Esq. of Ladies in Law; Mary Ann Sabo of Sabo PR; and Tyler Cady of CP Solutions.

‘This is a powerhouse roundtable and I’m expecting some very exciting and useful concepts to be presented in a very creative and interesting way, and, importantly, how to respond to crisis when it arises.’ Rossman said. ‘Crisis is unpredictable by its very terms, and we need to know not only what to do, but who to call when it strikes. This is going to be a very useful discussion.’”

Thank you, Susie – your bright spirit impacted the world

My mother Susie Duncan Sexton made me who I am. There will never be another like her: brilliant, beautiful, deep-feeling, passionate, inclusive, impish, kind. My heart is so full of you.

Susie Elizabeth Duncan Sexton, 75, of Columbia City, IN, passed away unexpectedly Friday, August 6, 2021, at her home. Born on May 14, 1946, in Fort Wayne, she was the daughter of Roy and Edna (Lewis) Duncan.

She grew up in Columbia City and graduated from Columbia City Joint High School with the Class of 1964. Susie went on to attend Ball State University in Education and was very active with campus life. She was a member of Pi Beta Phi, President of Panhellenic, Secretary of the Student Body and participated in Theatre projects. She graduated 12th in her class in 1968 as an honor student and was awarded the John R. Emens Outstanding Senior Award. On December 28, 1968, she married Donald Sexton in Columbia City.

Professional roles included actor at Wagon Wheel, First Pres and Arena Theatres; original faculty member at McMillen Health Center; English instructor at International Business College; PTA President at Indian Village Elementary; curator at the Whitley County Historical Museum; columnist and feature writer for Talk of the Town and the Columbia City Post and Mail; author of two books – Secrets of an Old Typewriter and More Secrets of an Old Typewriter: Misunderstood Gargoyles and Overrated Angels; and contributor to several published anthologies including Dearborn Public Library “Big Read” series. She was a staunch advocate for animal rights issues. http://www.susieduncansexton.com

Susie is survived by her husband, Don Sexton; son, Roy (John Mola) Sexton; and many nieces and nephews.

She was preceded in death by her sisters, Shirley Jagger and Sarah McBride; and brothers-in-law, Eldon “Guy” Jagger and Charles “Mac” McBride.

Friends may call on Tuesday August 10, 2021, from 4:00 – 7:00 pm at DeMoney-Grimes Funeral Home, 600 Countryside Drive, Columbia City. Susie’s family requests that guests attending services wear a mask during their visit.

Funeral services will be held at 10:00 am on Wednesday August 11, 2021, at the funeral home. The funeral service may also be watched live on Facebook through DeMoney Grimes Live. Burial will follow in Greenhill Cemetery, Columbia City.

Memorial donations may be given in memory to Whitley County Humane Society.

Visit http://www.demoneygrimes.com to send Susie’s family online condolences or sign the online guest book.

Susie Duncan Sexton’s remarks at Blue Bell Lofts grand opening: https://youtu.be/RmX26S5o3vs

Rob Kates gave my mother such a feeling of self and visibility and love this terrible past year. I’m so grateful for that. View his tribute here: https://fb.watch/7eVL4-IKIk/

Rob writes, “For all our LMCT fans, one of the best parts of having Roy Sexton host was our regular calls to his Mom, Susie Sexton. Sadly, Susie passed away unexpectedly in her home on this past Thursday. We will miss her wit, passion and the love she had for Roy and all of us. Mostly we’ll miss seeing the love Roy had for her, all of which you can share with us in this short visit we had from her during our recent Pride Month show.”

AND his “director’s cut” here: https://youtu.be/gNulgyTNiHM

One of the highlights of my mother Susie Sexton’s life was seeing her beloved Blue Bell factory, which my grandfather Roy Duncan managed for decades, reimagined for loft living. She was instrumental in the research that led to its historic designation, and she provided the keynote at the grand re-opening.

Enjoy her here in her element and at her finest: https://youtu.be/RmX26S5o3vs

From Patty: “Our tribute to Susie Sexton on the Patty’s Page TV Show, with co-hosts Terry Doran and Patty Hunter …”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ePAtbFQh5A&t=85s&ab_channel=abitibibob
“part one of two parts interview with Don and Susie Sexton and co-host Terry Doran”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2uENaQ32rw&t=245s&ab_channel=abitibibob
“part two of two parts interview with Don and Susie Sexton, and co-host Terry Doran”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_zB6ZQL3s&t=35s&ab_channel=abitibibob
“with Susie Sexton”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odbivWmG6J8&t=919s&ab_channel=abitibibob
“finally, an interview with Susie Sexton and her son, Roy Sexton… with Terry Doran as co-host…. Don Sexton was also there in the background”

Legendary Megan McKeon joins us on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk

(Screenshots by Nancy Leyes Myrland)

Thank you to my fabulous Clark Hill colleague Megan McKeon for joining Rob Kates and me on Kates Media: Video Production’s “Legal Marketing Coffee Talk,” sponsored by Jessica Aries’ By Aries. Thanks again to Katelynn Audrey Wynn McGuire for the wonderful promotional support.

Facebook VIDEO: https://fb.watch/7b2fOwyVov/

LinkedIn VIDEO: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robkates_legalmarketingcoffeetalk-legalmarketing-lmct-ugcPost-6827996446755713025-4wjF

YouTube: https://youtu.be/kxzNIpDgjYw

We cover a LOT! 🤣 The relative merit of phone calls, being trapped in Facebook jail, the perils of pool repair, the joys of home associations, and the highs and lows of geriatric pet ownership.

MORE importantly we discuss trends in legal marketing and business development, the crucial differences between those two disciplines AND their complementary nature, how data drives smart decision-making and efficient resource deployment, how the Legal Marketing Association and a commitment to mentoring benefits firm culture, and more.

Shout outs in today’s show to Susan Ahern, Guinevere Lehman Anderson, Marceline Johnson, John Byrne, Timothy Corcoran, Anne Gallagher, Brenda Plowman, Jill Mason Huse, Kelly MacKinnon, Nancy Myrland, Brenda Pontiff, Amy Payton Verhulst, Gina Furia Rubel, Heather Morse-Geller, Gail Porter Lamarche, Gail Paul, Susie Sexton, Connie Harris, James Fisher, Eric Lewandowski, Nancy McKeon, Patrick Fuller, Jay Harrington, Glen Hanson, HunTees, Marlon Brando, and more.

Postscript

That’s me! Always on the cutting edge! LOL. Thanks for the shout out (below), Nancy Myrland of Myrland Marketing and Social Media. She writes, “‘Should You Give Stories A Chance?’ A LinkedIn notification related to Roy Sexton yesterday (discussed in this 2-minute, 22-second episode) is what caused me to record this episode.”

I admit I keep using the damn things as another piece of real estate, wondering if anybody’s paying attention. So she nailed exactly my psychology as a user in her assessment!

Post – postscript …

Legal marketing BFFs Megan McKeon and Roy Sexton storm Legal Marketing Coffee Talk, Wednesday, August 4, 3 pm ET

LMCT is back this week coming to you live on Wednesday with host Roy Sexton (ME!) and Megan McKeon, Director of Business Development at Clark Hill Law. Megan is Roy’s colleague (LMCT’s 1st co-coworker interview), and she is the immediate past president of the Legal Marketing Association’s Midwest Region.

Megan is a licensed attorney, has nearly two decades of experience in law firm marketing and administration, and she leads the strategic development and implementation of new business and client initiatives among the firm’s experienced business developers.

Megan and Roy’s long-time friendship and experience presenting together at LMA conferences make for a great working relationship and will deliver a candid, free-wheeling, and fun LMCT discussion of trends in the industry, the opportunities and challenges the pandemic presented, and hopes for the future of legal marketing.

Tune in this Wednesday, August 4th, at 3:00 PM ET on …

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Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is brought to you by: By Aries and Kates Media

Thanks, Wabash College – no matter how old I get, it still feels nice to see a shout out in the alumni magazine.

Catnip cocktails, Robert Mitchum and authentic humanity: today’s Legal Marketing Coffee Talk with Jaffe’s Greg Griffin

FACEBOOK VIDEO: https://fb.watch/5kniObvbzj/

YOUTUBE: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qy70GlQjrco&feature=youtu.be

Rob Kates and I had a delightful chat with superstar Greg Griffin of Jaffe. Rob and I also learned our mothers have the same birthday, and we heard from my mom Susie Sexton that apparently Robert Mitchum has been paying her nightly visits. 😳

Greg shared with us the joys of his new role at Jaffe, the importance of authenticity and listening in effective business development, his commitment to volunteering and fitness, and how he gave the Houston mayor a catnip (nee mint) mojito. Missed opportunity: he didn’t bring his adorable pup on camera!

Learn more about Greg and read the Houston Chronicle feature about him (and referenced in today’s show) here: https://www.jaffepr.com/our-team/greg-griffin

Show mentions include: Terry M Isner , Vivian Hood , Melanie Trudeau , Evyan O’Keefe , Amy Verhulst , Gigi Zientek , Jenna Schiappacasse , Heather Morse , Megan McKeon , Nancy Myrland , Gina Furia Rubel (she/her) 🌏 , Laura Toledo , Lindsay Griffiths , Gail Lamarche , Deborah Brightman Farone , Sally Schmidt , Clayton Dodds , Cheryl Bame , Robin Devereux Gerard , Andrew Laver , Tahisha Fugate, MBA [she/her] , Jessica Aries (she/her/hers) , Stacy Monohan Payne, Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, and Howard the Duck. 🦆

I adore my Clark Hill colleague Emilie Strozier McCarthy. She always knows exactly what I need to hear and/or see … and this image is no exception. I am so happy that serendipity brought us together. She has made me a better human being and professional. We will be friends for life.

Singing, dancing, and data management: Richard Hefner with yours truly on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk – PLUS, my talented ma Susie Sexton published again

FACEBOOK VIDEO: https://fb.watch/41c7vYBah9/

YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/2N_ZHHp1W6w

This may be one of our wilder shows but rich with great content, pun intended! There is singing, there is dancing (sort of), there is personal reflection, there are quips, and there is a really robust and informative conversation about the power of data and relationship intelligence for marketing and business development.

Richard Hefner – he’s a rockstar. Quite literally. And he brings heart, wit, and deep insight to his work – https://www.ndvr.global. And you can check out his fantastic music at https://www.25songs.com/.

Furthermore, my mother Susie Sexton makes a fun and memorable appearance as we celebrate the publication of her latest book – https://bigreaddearborn.org/2021/03/04/tree-anthology-published/ – and reflect on the joys of living with my newly retired father and how none of us can ever remember celebrities’ last names.

Shout outs to Ricco Mashatt, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, John Kerry, WandaVision, Firefly Lane, Agatha All Along, Dearborn Public Library, and more. Thank you, as always, Rob Kates, Kates Media: Video Production, Jessica Aries, By Aries, for putting up with me!

Tree Anthology Published!

The Tree Anthology – featuring Susie Duncan Sexton – is now available for purchase on Amazon for $16 per copy here.

“We are ordering a limited number of copies to sell at our library branches for $10 per copy (we had to charge more for online orders). Those will likely be available in the next few weeks. Any funds raised will go towards our next Big Read in Dearborn.

“We are also going to add copies to the collection for checkout, so with a Dearborn Library card, you will be able to check out a copy for free. Please visit bigreaddearborn.org and dearbornlibrary.org for updates.

“So sorry for all the delays. We tried to publish the book in early January, but there were some issues that we had to fix. That’s why the book shows a publication date in January, but it was actually just made available.”

This Thursday! Richard Hefner and yours truly discuss relationship intelligence on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk

VIEW HERE: https://www.facebook.com/155057871244919/posts/3832100180207318/?d=n

This Thursday! It’s a double dose of Legal Marketing Coffee Talk this week with another episode this Thursday. Host Roy Sexton (ME!) and his guest, Richard Hefner, Founder of ndvr.global will discuss relationship intelligence and its place atop a marketing tech stack, how CRM and ERM vary, and likely some very fun musical interludes.

Richard is a passionate marketer with a long history in marketing strategy, CRM, e-marketing, websites, blogs and design, and he thrives on helping other legal marketers understand and implement Relationship Intelligence to radically increase bottom-line growth. After the show, be sure to check out Richard’s latest Legal Marketing Association – LMA International presentation, “The ERM Odyssey 2021: The Future is (Almost) Here,” for a deep-dive into ERM and using it as a workable solution – https://www.legalmarketing.org/blog/the-erm-odyssey-2021-the-future-is-(almost)-here

Tune in Thursday, March 4th at 3:00pm ET, live on Facebook.

Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is brought to you by By Aries and Kates Media: Video Production.

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THIS THURSDAY, February 4th, 3 pm ET! Heather and Jay Harrington with yours truly on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk

Join me and guests Heather and Jay Harrington, founders of Harrington Communications, as we discuss the importance of thought leadership and PR in legal marketing, marrying smart design with good content, and what it took to start their own agency that has turned top professional services firms into titans of industry.

Jay and Heather also have fascinating interests that include Heather’s spectacular art career – Life and Whim – and Jay’s books and publications. We are looking forward to picking the brains of this outstanding duo, and we know it’s a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Join us live on Thursday, February 4th at 3 pm ET. On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/155057871244919/posts/3747637818653555/?d=n

Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is brought to you by: Jessica Aries’ By Aries and Rob Kates’ Kates Media: Video Production.

Miscellany …

Thanks, Wabash College! I’m a “treasure.” 😉

Original post: https://blog.wabash.edu/alumninews/2021/01/26/roy-sexton-95-appointed-as-treasure-to-the-lma-board-of-directors/

Roy Sexton ’95 has been appointed as treasurer of the 2021 Legal Marketing Association – LMA International (LMA) Board of Directors. LMA represents thousands of legal marketing and business development professionals in 48 U.S. states and 24 countries.

“Being on the LMA Board of Directors is the apex of one’s volunteer leadership within the Legal Marketing Association and is significant in advancing the legal marketing profession as a whole,” LMA Executive Director Danielle Holland said in a news release.

Sexton, director of marketing at Clark Hill Law, has nearly 20 years of experience in marketing, communications, business development and strategic planning.

He has been heavily involved in the LMA as a regional and international leader and has served on numerous nonprofit boards and committees including the Ronald McDonald House Charities Ann Arbor, Mosaic Youth Theatre of Detroit, Royal Starr Arts Institute, EncoreMichigan.com.

“I am honored to serve on the 2021 LMA Board of Directors, and I look forward to the opportunity to help guide the association’s important work,” Sexton said in the release. “LMA will continue to provide outstanding programming and opportunities for professional development and networking to our members and advocate for our profession, locally, regionally and internationally.”

While at Wabash College, Sexton majored in English and theater and was a member of Lambda Chi Alpha and involved with the Wabash Theater, the Bachelor and Student Senate.

Sexton’s LMA appointment became effective January 1, 2021.

Our Clark Hill marketing and business development team has been on quite the journey over the last couple of years. It has been a great growth opportunity and one of the more enriching work experiences of my life. Out of the blue, REDSTARKIM LIMITED Managing Director Kim Tasso wrote about our work, based on a webinar we did six months ago! A lovely surprise!

Original post: https://kimtasso.com/legal-marketing-case-study-clark-hill-redesigns-its-marketing-and-bd-team/

Grateful for our exceptional and supportive leader Susan Ahern and for wonderful and inventive colleagues Megan McKeon , Guinevere Lehman Anderson , Emilie Strozier McCarthy , Shayna McCloskey , Tommy Franz , Dani Carter , Alexandra France , Gloria Pak , Elizabeth C. Jeffries , Stacey Marie , Maureen Denney , Keith Hobbs , Katelynn Schwalm , Alé Simmons , Amy Oldiges , Kimberly Reisman , Leslie Smithson.

From the blog entry’s intro: “In September, the international senior marketing and business development team at Clark Hill presented a webinar for the Professional Marketing Forum. The topic was ‘Clark Hill redesigns its marketing and BD team’. The work to re-imagine its marketing and business development (M&BD) team won Clark Hill the Best Marketing Initiative Award at the 2020 Managing Partners’ Forum Management Excellence Awards.”

SAVE THE DATE! February 11, 12:05 pm ET. Brenda Meller of Meller Marketing and I return to thunderdome! We will discuss what it means to be a superfan and how that can benefit your networking, branding, and marketing efforts. Celebrate, advocate, reciprocate.

More: https://www.mellermarketing.com/upcoming-live-interviews

Nikki Bagdady Horn with yours truly on Legal Marketing Coffee Talk discussing great graphic design … and The Backstreet Boys

VIEW VIDEO: https://fb.watch/39Vy8YXpiG/

Yes, Nikki Bagdady Horn and I talk about The Backstreet Boys … and design for marketing communications! To be honest I’m not sure why she puts up with me, nor why Rob Kates hasn’t murdered me yet over my dodgy Internet connection. My mother Susie Sexton is hibernating after the exciting Inauguration events this week AND a marathon viewing of ALL six seasons of Grace & Frankie.

More about Nikki: https://nikkiscreative.com

We discuss at length the need for thoughtful consulting when designing materials that have substantive and difficult messaging AND the importance of considering audience needs … always. Nikki is a master of her craft.

You know it’s a party when the Pope, President, and Vice President FCTRY action figures come out to play!

Jenn Kennedy commented, “Highly recommend Nikki! Her graphic design skillset is worth the investment, for those in the market for a designer. 👍”

Shout outs to dogs everywhere, creative lighting, Morris Day & The Time, community theatre, Dianne Rychlewski, lawyers, Blaine D. Fowler, Colleen McConnell Fowler, Jennifer Saulten Arapoff, Jenn Kennedy, Todd Forfinski, Joanie Davidson Forfinski, Kerr Russell, Saint Joseph Mercy Health System, Bryan Bagdady, Lauren Crocker, Clark Hill, Trott Law, Ann Arbor Civic Theatre, runners, and more.

VIEW VIDEO: https://fb.watch/39Vy8YXpiG/

I buy (and wear) weird t-shirts. Proudly.

The Other History of the DC Universe … eye-opening, transformative, damning, beautiful, human

Yes, I’m an adult (sort of) who reads (and enjoys) comic books. I’ve always relished the escapist interludes comics frequently provide. But sometimes they are transcendant.

A few times in my life, be they in epic scale (Marv Wolfman’s and George Pérez’ Crisis On Infinite Earths, Brad Meltzer’s and Rags Morales’ Identity Crisis, Grant Morrison’s and Howard Porter’s JLA) or clear-eyed cultural critique (Alan Moore’s and Dave Gibbons’ Watchmen, Art Spiegelman’s Maus, Reggie Hudlin’s and John Romita, Jr.’s Black Panther), the books left me speechless and deeply moved, notably in terms of how metaphorically revelatory these pieces can be about our sometimes joyous, often painful human condition.

Add The Other History of the DC Universe to that storied (pun intended) list. Oscar-winning 12 Years a Slave screenwriter John Ridley pens a compelling, heartrending, corrosive yet loving treatment of the history of the DC Universe from the eyes of heroes of color left in the (literal) margins. Giuseppe Camuncoli and Andrea Cucchi provide gorgeous illustrations that are expansive, exhilarating, and somehow both retro AND forward-leaning.

In the first issue, Jefferson Pierce AKA Black Lightning takes us from 1972 through 1995, juxtaposing “real” world and “DC Comics’ world” events of that era with an incisive point-of-view that is eye-opening, transformative, damning, beautiful, and human. You might never look at Superman the same way again, yet you are even more appreciative of these characters and their ability to reflect our own ever-evolving societal perspectives on equality, fair play, and inclusion. Can’t wait to read the rest.

More on the series here: https://ew.com/books/john-ridley-the-other-history-of-the-dc-universe/

“Once Upon a December” from Anastasia

Want to join me in supporting a good cause? For my birthday this month (December 28 to be exact!), I’m raising money for Ronald McDonald House Charities Ann Arbor and your contribution will make an impact, whether you donate $5 or $500. Just click donate on this fundraising page: https://lnkd.in/eQ_NVZD

I’m a proud board member and have seen firsthand how every little bit helps. This little fundraiser is nearing the two thousand dollar mark because of wonderful support from kind and generous friends like you!

“Winter” (Tori Amos)

Thanks to our donors-to-date: Beth Kennedy, Greg Griffin, Terry Branoff, Paola Armeni, Chris Sheeren, Aaron Bebee, Rachel Shields Williams, Megan McKeon, Morgan Leigh Horvitz, Monica Phillips, Dianne Rychlewski, Kristen Bateman Leis, Becky Felix, Anna Ostrander, Eric Walkuski, Donna Ballantyne, Christine N. Harris, Jennifer Munsayac, Barry Solomon, Kate Meltzer, Laurin Hawkins, Connie Harris, Cynthia Voth, Tina Paraventi, Amy Oldiges, Tammy Gales Mangan, Kelly MacKinnon, Sally Feldman, Petrea Schumacher, Brook Weeks Redmond, and Sarah Gallagher. Love you ❤️

Thank you for your support.

#KeepingFamiliesClose

“Swee’Pea’s Lullaby” from Popeye

Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is back Monday with host Roy Sexton (ME!), Director of Marketing at Clark Hill, and guest Stephanie D. Preston, PhD and professor of psychology at the University of Michigan. Dr. Preston examines how the brain evolved to use emotions to influence decisions across species, particularly in interpersonal and investment contexts.

How does this apply to legal marketing!?

Well, Dr. Preston focuses her attention on our desires and how our neural processes that originally evolved to guide mammals toward resources that are necessary but scarce may mislead us in our current modern conditions of material abundance. In other words, she will help us understand how our brains work. She will also explain to us the interesting connection between marketing and psychology and how their connection has led to overconsumption in some areas.

Tune in Monday, December 7th at 2:00 PM ET Live on https://www.facebook.com/KatesMedia/.

Legal Marketing Coffee Talk is brought to you by By Aries and Kates Media.